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Dirka
03-04-2011, 07:46 PM
i heard about this game a while ago of course but I never really looked at it much because im not a star wars nerd and I wasn't really looking to get into another MMO but last night I started reading about it for whatever reason and son of a bitch, it looks interesting. I might actually have to buy this when it comes out.

i really like their ideas with the companion and then your spaceship crew that you can send out to do missions and harvest stuff and craft. i assume several people here had already planned to get this but i was just curious how many we expect to have?

here's a nice breakdown for anyone late to the game like me: http://swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=188836

Kablam
03-04-2011, 08:39 PM
I was planning on playing it since I played KotOR and KotOR II: TSL, but it all depends on the business model. I'm hoping they don't go the way of micro-transactions and just make it a one-time purchase, or subscription based I guess. I just don't want it to look like the typical Korean MMO, and would prefer for everyone to have an equal shot at everything (I hate cashwhore MMOs). I subscribed to one of the devs on youtube, and so far, the content seems pretty well made, and the storyline is pretty solid (especially with KotOR and KotOR II to back it). Again though, I'll have to see what type of business model they go with in the end.

If I do end up playing it though, I'm definitely rolling as a Bounty Hunter/Smuggler class! :D

Dirka
03-04-2011, 10:29 PM
from what ive read it looks like standard subscription

Kablam
03-04-2011, 10:56 PM
So far. Let's hope they don't change it though :s Black Prophecy was supposed to be subscription based as well. Then they decided to throw in an item shop.

Not saying this will be a repeat, but stuff happens sometimes and it leaves everyone going "Wat...?"

Nick Mangiaracina
03-04-2011, 11:43 PM
This isn't KOTOR, it's ToR. I'll be playing it.

Dirka
03-05-2011, 12:14 AM
This isn't KOTOR, it's ToR. I'll be playing it.

right, fixed that

Kablam
03-05-2011, 01:39 AM
Actually, it's TOR. Doubt "Old" is lowercase in the title of the game, but I'm just doing some pedantic knit-picking ;s

Dirka
03-09-2011, 07:29 PM
fyi, whoever is running our guild can register it now and maybe bring some traffic to the site

http://www.swtor.com/guilds

Nick Mangiaracina
03-09-2011, 07:57 PM
http://www.swtor.com/guilds/9583/couch-athletics

ME GUSTA

Dirka
03-09-2011, 08:11 PM
republic? WUT?

Darth Dirka will fuck up your shit.

Nick Mangiaracina
03-10-2011, 01:55 PM
I can always switch it. Need input from others that plan on playing though. Light or dark?

Kablam
03-10-2011, 02:14 PM
I can always switch it. Need input from others that plan on playing though. Light or dark?

I am dark side all the way sir. Though I'll most likely have 2 characters. One for each absolute :s Doesn't really matter to me.

Dirka
03-10-2011, 08:13 PM
yeah i would play as either one but i think the dark side's classes are a bit more interesting.

Dirka
03-12-2011, 02:48 PM
http://www.swtor.com/media/trailers/tar ... alkthrough (http://www.swtor.com/media/trailers/taral-v-developer-walkthrough)

Ranny
03-20-2011, 05:55 AM
I will most likely be playing this when it comes out but, i would quite enjoy to play on the Light side (Troopers are the best!).

B-Ferret
03-20-2011, 06:09 AM
dark side
i want to be a stormtrooper
if i cant do that
then idc

Dirka
03-20-2011, 10:58 AM
http://www.swtor.com/info/holonet/classes


As for the side we pick, right now there are a lot more registered empire guilds than republic for PVP so if that continues until launch we should probably roll republic to avoid queues.

TheSexyAlbexican
03-20-2011, 01:50 PM
dark side
i want to be a stormtrooper
if i cant do that
then idc
In this part of the Star Wars timeline, Stormtroopers don't exist. Closest thing you can be is a Bounty Hunter, as you can see in Dirka's link.

Dirka
03-20-2011, 04:56 PM
BW did a very nice job designing the classes. Every time I read about one, that's the one I want to play. The only thing I know for sure that won't roll is Jedi knight, since there will be so many of those.

Nick Mangiaracina
03-20-2011, 05:06 PM
http://www.swtor.com/info/holonet/classes


As for the side we pick, right now there are a lot more registered empire guilds than republic for PVP so if that continues until launch we should probably roll republic to avoid queues.

That, and it's always more fun to be on the side with less people. I'll see if I can convince Jeremy to play, he'll want to play a Jedi. I want to play either the jedi consular dude or a trooper.

TheSexyAlbexican
03-20-2011, 05:14 PM
I'm still undecided on whether I want to be a Jedi Knight (Guardian) like I always was in KOTOR, or go with the Consular. The diplomatic duties of the Consular makes me lean towards that, so... Hm. Either way, I really am looking forward to this game.

Dirka
03-20-2011, 05:29 PM
Probably leaning towards dps smuggler right now but I don't have a strong preference. I can do whatever is needed.

Kablam
03-21-2011, 03:16 PM
I'm sticking to Bounty Hunter or Smuggler :3

Nick Mangiaracina
03-21-2011, 07:05 PM
Btw, if you do plan on playing TOR, apply to join the guild. I've been accepting applications.

Dirka
03-21-2011, 07:36 PM
and for those who may not be keeping a close eye on this, a quote from the CFO of EA:


Eric Brown: Sure I'll just address timing first and then you know speak to opportunities. So we have for the first time street dated within a date range the Star Wars MMO. So we said it's going to launch sometime in calendar, but not within Fiscal 11. So that basically pens down between you know, April 1st and December 31st of this calendar year. It's also reasonable to infer that it's not in our Q1 guidance. We gave Q1 Fiscal 11, Fiscal 12 non-GAAP revenue guidance, minus 39 minus 44 cents and I think it's not unreasonable to infer that it's not included in that 90 day period. So we've narrowed the window, provided a window for the first time provided on the progress we've made closed beta testing.

what that means in non-finance talk is no release before June. also of note is that I don't think any MMO has ever released in the summer, so I'm guessing we're looking at a Sep-Oct window.

Doctor
03-28-2011, 02:33 PM
what that means in non-finance talk is no release before June. also of note is that I don't think any MMO has ever released in the summer, so I'm guessing we're looking at a Sep-Oct window.Star Wars Galaxies released 26 June 2003. I only know this because that summer was very unproductive for me... ;). Doesn't really matter that it is the summer.

Dirka
04-28-2011, 05:49 PM
lots of new info to check out for those interested:

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=307824

Nick Mangiaracina
04-29-2011, 01:43 PM
Holy Awesome.

http://www.swtor.com/news/blog/20110429

Dirka
04-29-2011, 03:18 PM
Holy Awesome.

http://www.swtor.com/news/blog/20110429

Yeah they have a few articles like that where they talk about how they make different parts of the game. It's pretty interesting.

Nick Mangiaracina
04-29-2011, 03:44 PM
It sucks because it sounds like it's not coming out until late fall or early winter.

I really don't want to wait that long.

Dirka
04-29-2011, 03:56 PM
It sucks because it sounds like it's not coming out until late fall or early winter.

I really don't want to wait that long.

Yeah for sure. Like in the quote above, it's a ways off since it's a public company they will announce it well in advance. My guess is e3 announcement, October release.

Nick Mangiaracina
04-29-2011, 05:04 PM
It sucks because it sounds like it's not coming out until late fall or early winter.

I really don't want to wait that long.

Yeah for sure. Like in the quote above, it's a ways off since it's a public company they will announce it well in advance. My guess is e3 announcement, October release.

That wouldn't be terrible.

Dirka
05-01-2011, 11:00 AM
nice write-up

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2011/04/s ... -republic/ (http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2011/04/star-wars-the-old-republic/)

Nick Mangiaracina
05-01-2011, 01:09 PM
nice write-up

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2011/04/s ... -republic/ (http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2011/04/star-wars-the-old-republic/)

Hah, read the same article at Ars Technica.

Dirka
05-01-2011, 01:33 PM
Apparently a bunch of PVP info drops next Friday. Looking forward to that.

What I'd really like to see though is what guilds can do. Hopefully it's more than just a group of dudes to run quests with.

Nick Mangiaracina
05-02-2011, 08:50 AM
I always look for guild tools. Also, I LOVE guild leveling systems.

Dirka
05-06-2011, 06:50 PM
some PVP info

http://darthhater.com/2011/05/05/fan-si ... -interview (http://darthhater.com/2011/05/05/fan-site-summit-gabe-amatangelo-interview)
http://darthhater.com/2011/05/05/fan-si ... n-learned/ (http://darthhater.com/2011/05/05/fan-site-summit-pvp-information-learned/)
http://darthhater.com/2011/05/05/fan-si ... pressions/ (http://darthhater.com/2011/05/05/fan-site-summit-pvp-impressions/)

TheSexyAlbexican
05-06-2011, 10:39 PM
Awesome Jedi on Sith PvP action makes me excited. Very, very excited. This is the news I'm looking for.

Ruugab
05-07-2011, 06:22 PM
i would recommend doing what we did for apb, having a CA good guild, and a CA bad guild

i would also recommend rolling a RP server
not that we would be rping, but the people that roll rp servers are A. People who RP, or B. People who dont and just want a more mature gaming experience

the stigma for rp servers is that everybody RPs, which results in alot of bad people overlooking those servers cause they believe its "homo"

in reality, and you can ask chet, ned, and i believe weezel, 90% of the population doesn't rp for any rp server in any game ....

atleast thats how its been for:
everquest 2
lotro
City of Heroes/Villians
Age of Conan
World of Warcraft

"Chet's a Spychecker: I don't think it'd be a bad idea, especially for a new game that everyone's trying out essentially
Chet's a Spychecker: And RP servers might not be choked with people at launch
"

Dirka
05-07-2011, 06:35 PM
I'm not sure I would like to play on a pvp server. I like pvp but sometimes I'd like to go do some quests without getting ganked by a bunch of kids.

Nick Mangiaracina
05-07-2011, 07:50 PM
I'm not sure I would like to play on a pvp server. I like pvp but sometimes I'd like to go do some quests without getting ganked by a bunch of kids.

This.

chet_mcetcetera
05-07-2011, 09:25 PM
i would also recommend rolling a RP server


Would totally be behind this, if I decide to pick it up
It wouldn't be PVP, or at any rate, if it is PVP, it wouldn't have as much of those horrible little ganking PVP goblins, and a RP server might not be overpopulated at launch with long queues.

Ruugab
05-07-2011, 09:34 PM
it really depends on how the company is with pvp servers...some companies do a very bad job with it, others do a very good job

i will probably end up on a rp-pvp server anyway, which i feel will have the least amount of ganking kids...seeing as how its an rp server

plus the constant threat of attack well doing quests adds a whole new dimension of fun i find

but a pvp server at launch for any game will be a clusterfuck....its just a rp-pvp wont be as bad of a clusterfuck

Nick Mangiaracina
05-08-2011, 05:52 AM
What if they don't do RP-PVP at launch? Just RP then?

CompanionCube
05-16-2011, 06:01 PM
Given I am alive and have enough cash that I won't starve, I plan on playing the crap out of this game. My vote is RP, since that's the only added benefit of playing this vs WoW is the setting.



I'm not sure I would like to play on a pvp server. I like pvp but sometimes I'd like to go do some quests without getting ganked by a bunch of kids.

This.

This.

Loasted
05-17-2011, 08:11 AM
Given I am alive and have enough cash that I won't starve, I plan on playing the crap out of this game. My vote is RP, since that's the only added benefit of playing this vs WoW is the setting.



I'm not sure I would like to play on a pvp server. I like pvp but sometimes I'd like to go do some quests without getting ganked by a bunch of kids.

This.

This.

Bah! Bunch of carebears playing on non-pvp servers.

Ranny
05-17-2011, 06:11 PM
Bah! Bunch of carebears playing on non-pvp servers.

This.

Dirka
05-17-2011, 06:49 PM
I'd be willing to give pvp a shot as long as we have a bunch of people playing and theyre ready to help a brother out

Loasted
05-18-2011, 11:21 AM
They'll probably implement contested territories or something to the effect of what they did in Warhammer to allow players to level without being PK'd. I don't know how many of you actually played Asheron's call but the world was wide open and pvp was possible anywhere. Believe it or not this had been some of the best times playing a mmo. Friend gets ganked and you would portal in and mass world pvp insued. This usually prompted a good rivalry between an opposing faction and led to hours of great pvp.

Nick Mangiaracina
05-18-2011, 12:06 PM
Not sure how I feel about pvp. Yes, lots of pvp can be fun, but it can also be a challenge, an unwanted challenge.

Loasted
05-18-2011, 01:13 PM
Not sure how I feel about pvp. Yes, lots of pvp can be fun, but it can also be a challenge, an unwanted challenge.

Well like I said they will probably implement it so that you can world pvp if you want but do not have to particpate if you only want to level.

Dirka
05-18-2011, 03:50 PM
Not sure how I feel about pvp. Yes, lots of pvp can be fun, but it can also be a challenge, an unwanted challenge.

Well like I said they will probably implement it so that you can world pvp if you want but do not have to particpate if you only want to level.

That sounds like a pve server to me

Loasted
05-19-2011, 08:55 AM
No doubt that it does sound like a PVE server. However, I can assume all day but in reality we won't know until they provide us with more pvp information then we have right now to make an educated decision.

Nick Mangiaracina
05-19-2011, 12:50 PM
http://www.redrancor.com/index.php?page=tor_innovative

TheSexyAlbexican
05-20-2011, 06:47 PM
http://www.redrancor.com/index.php?page=tor_innovative
Simply awesome.

TheSexyAlbexican
06-07-2011, 12:15 AM
Fuck yes.

GL2-3oBB7KQ9

Forty2
06-07-2011, 02:24 PM
Fuck yes.

GL2-3oBB7KQ
Dual-wielding space cowboy complete with hat and Badass Longcoat? I might buy the game just to see more of him. Too bad we'll have to use EA's new system as opposed to Steam, though.

Speaking of which... what's the payment plan looking like on this? I haven't really done my research...9

Dirka
06-07-2011, 05:08 PM
It's standard, subscription based. They haven't realeased the price yet but you can assume it will be around $15 like everyone else

Ranny
06-07-2011, 06:20 PM
Fuck yes.

GL2-3oBB7KQ

I just came. :shock:9

Dirka
06-07-2011, 06:46 PM
weird, that guy was like "oh look, the sith are back, ho hum"

Nick Mangiaracina
06-08-2011, 12:32 PM
My biggest gripe so far with EA handling the marketing of this game, is that they're only showing off cinematic trailers at events.

E3 2011 was a great opportunity to show off some of the insanely good gameplay that's packed into this game and yet, again, they fell flat on their face.

I was in a room with about 10 artists and a few programmers and all of them were taking shots at the game because they were so far into development and hadn't shown any gameplay.

Kablam
06-08-2011, 02:39 PM
Not sure what to make of this (http://ealouse.wordpress.com/). Interesting read though.

Ruugab
06-08-2011, 04:44 PM
at HevyD-

Can you really blame them? I mean, if they are trying to seduce dumb people into getting the game, which is a large portion of video game players, why not show a bunch of sweet cinematic movies?

every cinematic video on youtube for this game has more views than any gameplay video for it...

Nick Mangiaracina
06-08-2011, 04:52 PM
I'm sure that's because when you look up Star Wars: The Old Republic, the cinematic trailers all come up first. Eye candy is one thing, and of course people are going to want to watch crazy awesome cinematic trailers at home. When addressing a massive audience, you're going to win people over with gameplay trailers, not bullshit cinematic trailers.

Your average idiot may be playing more games, but your average gamer is the one spending the money and going for games like The Old Republic.

Let me put it like this. World of Warcraft is the MMO bar. They had 1 cinematic trailer, and 1 full cinematic on release. That's it. Everything else was gameplay.

Dirka
06-08-2011, 05:01 PM
I think MMO gameplay is a much tougher sell as opposed to most other types of games. They almost always look slow and boring. They do have some gameplay videos out there though.

Nick Mangiaracina
06-08-2011, 05:03 PM
Normally I'd agree with you. However, the gameplay in TOR actually looks ...fast paced and new?

Dirka
06-08-2011, 05:07 PM
If you watch the videos of regular people playing the game it looks pretty much like all other MMOs to me in terms of pace and gameplay

Nick Mangiaracina
06-08-2011, 05:10 PM
If you watch the videos of regular people playing the game it looks pretty much like all other MMOs to me in terms of pace and gameplay


Sure, watching someone play an MMO is boring. They were able to clip that trailer together from cinematic bullshit. They could easily clip gameplay together that makes it look fun and entertaining. I'm not asking them to show 15 minutes of some guy completing two quests. I'm asking them to make an appealing gameplay trailer.

Dirka
06-08-2011, 05:13 PM
They made a couple decent ones, 1 of a mid level instance and 1 PvP from a few weeks ago. If they didn't play those at E3, not sure why v

Ruugab
06-08-2011, 05:21 PM
I think MMO gameplay is a much tougher sell as opposed to most other types of games. They almost always look slow and boring.

that's the other point i was gonna go for

if your trying to sell the game to a large audience, your gonna want awesome eye candy...the typical WoW player, i have a hard time considering them a typical video game player, many of the kids i went to school with played WoW, and would be far more likely to talk about an awesome cinematic they saw to their friends, than an awesome game-play trailer they saw

but for a large audience when presenting your game, such as E3, i cannot comment on that, i would guess, as you said, gameplay would be better

im not trying to say its what they should have done, just maybe why they did it, devil's advocate i guess

Ruugab
06-08-2011, 05:24 PM
If you watch the videos of regular people playing the game it looks pretty much like all other MMOs to me in terms of pace and gameplay

ill agree, the best gameplay videos ive seen of an MMO was of Age of Conan.......at least that looked way more fast paced and bloody than your run of the mill mmo

but when your presenting your game at E3, i would think game-play no matter what, should be your first priority

Nick Mangiaracina
06-08-2011, 06:20 PM
I think MMO gameplay is a much tougher sell as opposed to most other types of games. They almost always look slow and boring.

that's the other point i was gonna go for

if your trying to sell the game to a large audience, your gonna want awesome eye candy...the typical WoW player, i have a hard time considering them a typical video game player, many of the kids i went to school with played WoW, and would be far more likely to talk about an awesome cinematic they saw to their friends, than an awesome game-play trailer they saw

but for a large audience when presenting your game, such as E3, i cannot comment on that, i would guess, as you said, gameplay would be better

im not trying to say its what they should have done, just maybe why they did it, devil's advocate i guess

I guess you completely ignored what I said about WoW.

Ranny
06-08-2011, 06:31 PM
If you watch the videos of regular people playing the game it looks pretty much like all other MMOs to me in terms of pace and gameplay

I have to agree with this. The cinematic trailers look amazing but honestly the game play does look like your average MMO's gameplay. None the less i cant judge gameplay off a videos of someone else playing it so, still going to pick it up probably.

Ruugab
06-08-2011, 06:59 PM
I guess you completely ignored what I said about WoW.


the typical WoW player, i have a hard time considering them a typical video game player, many of the kids i went to school with played WoW, and would be far more likely to talk about an awesome cinematic they saw to their friends, than an awesome game-play trailer they saw

Nick Mangiaracina
06-08-2011, 10:07 PM
Your talk about WoW seems entirely independent from the point I made. With only 1 cinematic trailer, WoW managed to get 6 million subscribers in the first few months. More cinematic trailers is going to grab the wrong crowd.

Dirka
06-08-2011, 10:23 PM
Your talk about WoW seems entirely independent from the point I made. With only 1 cinematic trailer, WoW managed to get 6 million subscribers in the first few months. More cinematic trailers is going to grab the wrong crowd.

i think its tough to compare the 2. MMO was a niche thing back in the pre-WoW days, its a lot more mainstream now.

Kablam
06-10-2011, 10:15 AM
After a lot of consideration, I don't think I'll be playing this game anymore. The more I look at it, the more it seems like another Clone Wars and less of another Old Republic. Ah well. Nifty trailers I guess? Even the writing for those was meh. I'll look at some gameplay videos later on if anything. For now though, I'll sit back and remember how much I enjoyed KotOR.

Dirka
06-10-2011, 05:10 PM
Gameplay video today

W-CTmGpA0Eo9

CompanionCube
06-10-2011, 07:00 PM
After a lot of consideration, I don't think I'll be playing this game anymore. The more I look at it, the more it seems like another Clone Wars and less of another Old Republic. Ah well. Nifty trailers I guess? Even the writing for those was meh. I'll look at some gameplay videos later on if anything. For now though, I'll sit back and remember how much I enjoyed KotOR.

You know, I agree, but it probably won't stop me from giving it a shot.

I am a HUGE kotor, kotor 2 fan, but you can't blame them for trying to cater to the younger generation of star wars fans. The ascetetics are a little juvenile, sure, but you'll get over them after 10 hours of play. What will make or break the game is the experience you actually have playing the game. The way I see it, it's like facebook. Yeah, they may have made a bunch of bad design choices, but they're making a good enough product (Multiplayer, RPG, star wars, awesome story, philosophy, replayability as any type of character) that it's OK.

The space combat looks really interesting, much better than Eve. It's been a while since a good space sim has come out.

TheSexyAlbexican
06-10-2011, 10:38 PM
I'm sticking with the game. The gameplay features that I've seen really appeal to me (Cinematic storytelling is probably the greatest thing to happen to an MMORPG), and the fact that it's not only Star Wars, but an evolution of KOTOR means I need this. As long as the combat is somewhat reminiscent of KOTOR and the space fights are like Rogue Squadron, I can see myself playing this for a while. Even if it's not the same, I have no idea why I wouldn't enjoy this game.

Also, the Cinematic really got me going. It definitely felt more like the original trilogy than the prequel trilogy to me.

Dirka
06-11-2011, 02:16 PM
FYI, the space combat is just a rail shooter mini-game.

TheSexyAlbexican
06-11-2011, 03:09 PM
FYI, the space combat is just a rail shooter mini-game.
Good enough for me.

thegrogster
06-11-2011, 03:57 PM
FYI, the space combat is just a rail shooter mini-game.
Good enough for me.

Not for me. I'm still going to try the game out, though.

Dirka
06-11-2011, 05:15 PM
I'd bet big money on the real space game being an expansion in a couple years

Nick Mangiaracina
06-11-2011, 07:03 PM
I'd bet big money on the real space game being an expansion in a couple years

As long as the initial interest for the game is high.

Dirka
06-11-2011, 07:45 PM
I'd bet big money on the real space game being an expansion in a couple years

As long as the initial interest for the game is high.

i'd say thats a given. they have over a million forum accounts alone.

Nick Mangiaracina
06-11-2011, 08:11 PM
I'd bet big money on the real space game being an expansion in a couple years

As long as the initial interest for the game is high.

i'd say thats a given. they have over a million forum accounts alone.

It's not the initial interest that keeps a game going. It's enough content to keep the masses happy and having fun while you create more content.

GothicPurpleSquirrel
06-25-2011, 03:23 PM
I certainly plan on getting it. The story seems interesting enough, and im itching for a sci fi mmo that isnt eve or galaxies. Plus the troopers guns make me giddy.

Nick Mangiaracina
07-21-2011, 11:26 AM
[attachment=0:waq10pm5]TOR.JPG[/attachment:waq10pm5]

Dirka
07-21-2011, 11:44 AM
I tried to preorder but the site crashes my phone. :(

Dirka
07-21-2011, 06:26 PM
I can't believe those greedy fucks charge an ADDITIONAL $5 for preordering.

And I paid it like a bitch.

Nick Mangiaracina
07-21-2011, 09:08 PM
Who'd you buy it from?

Dirka
07-21-2011, 09:41 PM
Who'd you buy it from?

EA

Nick Mangiaracina
07-22-2011, 05:50 PM
Who'd you buy it from?

EA

Fail.

Dirka
07-22-2011, 06:06 PM
I don't want a fucking box or maps or action figures or whatever the hell else you get with the other editions. I just wanted a digital download. What's so fail about that?

Nick Mangiaracina
07-22-2011, 06:18 PM
The fail is going with EA. First of all, by purchasing through EA you're supporting their Origin system. That's a neddy no-no. Second of all, people have been having nothing but trouble purchasing through EA. Double check your bank accounts muchaho, I've seen a few stories pop up where people have been charged double and triple the amount of the game, and EA not refunding it either.

Basically, EA is going to make this a very painful process. Buy a physical copy, and keep it. Origin's Terms of Use states that if you don't login to Origin for over two years, they remove your games from your account. If you can avoid it, do not give EA your money.

No-eye-deer
07-22-2011, 06:20 PM
That's a neddy no-no.
:?:

Dirka
07-22-2011, 08:17 PM
EA gets your money no matter where you buy it from, and I have enough crap laying around my house already. I haven't bought a box of software in years.

Nick Mangiaracina
07-22-2011, 09:35 PM
EA gets your money no matter where you buy it from, and I have enough crap laying around my house already. I haven't bought a box of software in years.


You of all people don't believing in voting with your wallet?

Dirka
07-22-2011, 09:44 PM
Ea owns bioware, they get the money no matter what. I'm not seeing your point.

B-Ferret
07-23-2011, 12:17 AM
I don't want a fucking box or maps or action figures or whatever the hell else you get with the other editions. I just wanted a digital download. What's so fail about that?
Not wanting action figures.
What are you? Some kind of heartless monster?

Nick Mangiaracina
07-23-2011, 03:20 AM
Ea owns bioware, they get the money no matter what. I'm not seeing your point.

Do I have to teach you about wholesale and retail? What incentive does Amazon have for carrying a product if they don't make any money off of it?

Kablam
07-23-2011, 07:23 AM
Ea owns bioware, they get the money no matter what. I'm not seeing your point.

Do I have to teach you about wholesale and retail? What incentive does Amazon have for carrying a product if they don't make any money off of it?

My mommy says they do it 'cause we're all special. :)

Dirka
07-23-2011, 11:44 AM
If amazon offered a digital download then I'd have bought it from them, but they didn't.

Nick Mangiaracina
07-23-2011, 02:52 PM
If amazon offered a digital download then I'd have bought it from them, but they didn't.

You're killing your father, Larry.

Nick Mangiaracina
07-26-2011, 11:59 AM
Regarding server types, I think it'd be best if we roll on an RP server. PvP servers tend to be alluring to the loner type of player. This is an MMORPG and I absolutely despise that in MMOs. I prefer a rich community of people who actually want to play the game and participate in grouping.

Thoughts? Ideas?

Dirka
07-26-2011, 12:07 PM
As long as we aren't actually RPing

Nick Mangiaracina
07-26-2011, 12:16 PM
As long as we aren't actually RPing

I may attend a naked dance party, or two.

B-Ferret
07-26-2011, 12:27 PM
Regarding server types, I think it'd be best if we roll on an RP server. PvP servers tend to be alluring to the loner type of player. This is an MMORPG and I absolutely despise that in MMOs. I prefer a rich community of people who actually want to play the game and participate in grouping.

Thoughts? Ideas?
Aren't there just normal PvE servers or is it just RP and PvP?

As for PvP servers meaning loners, I've always played with a bunch of friend's on PvP servers and it's really been enjoyable. Especially if you meet another group of friends in the middle of a contested zone. but eh, that's just me.

Nick Mangiaracina
07-26-2011, 01:01 PM
People that join RP servers are more involved in community than regular PvE ers. Also, without trying to insult you I understand why someone so young would be able to fit in with the pvp community. Though I'm personally a little surprised you wouldn't share similar feelings with me on this issue.

Have you ever played on an RP server? It's a more enjoyable experience. No, you don't need to RP.

Dirka
07-26-2011, 01:55 PM
Make sure all you guys have signed up for the guild on the TOR forums, that way when nick picks a server it will automatically put us all together.

Nick Mangiaracina
07-26-2011, 03:58 PM
Make sure all you guys have signed up for the guild on the TOR forums, that way when nick picks a server it will automatically put us all together.

Word!

B-Ferret
07-26-2011, 04:10 PM
People that join RP servers are more involved in community than regular PvE ers. Also, without trying to insult you I understand why someone so young would be able to fit in with the pvp community. Though I'm personally a little surprised you wouldn't share similar feelings with me on this issue.

Have you ever played on an RP server? It's a more enjoyable experience. No, you don't need to RP.
I have played on an RP server (in WoW regrettably) and it wasn't the best experience. A lot of people seem to kinda force RP onto you and lot of it is erotic RP. This was just a first impression though, so maybe it gets better once you leave the first few starting areas.

Dirka
07-26-2011, 04:34 PM
I'll probably play as bounty hunter so I can "rp" as an asshole

Nick Mangiaracina
07-26-2011, 05:57 PM
I'll probably play as bounty hunter so I can "rp" as an asshole

We're light side.

Nick Mangiaracina
07-26-2011, 05:57 PM
People that join RP servers are more involved in community than regular PvE ers. Also, without trying to insult you I understand why someone so young would be able to fit in with the pvp community. Though I'm personally a little surprised you wouldn't share similar feelings with me on this issue.

Have you ever played on an RP server? It's a more enjoyable experience. No, you don't need to RP.
I have played on an RP server (in WoW regrettably) and it wasn't the best experience. A lot of people seem to kinda force RP onto you and lot of it is erotic RP. This was just a first impression though, so maybe it gets better once you leave the first few starting areas.

Forced erotic RP on a minor? Probably should have contacted a GM.

B-Ferret
07-27-2011, 03:36 PM
Forced erotic RP on a minor? Probably should have contacted a GM.
I have a feeling from what they were sending they were minors as well.

Dirka
07-27-2011, 03:46 PM
We're light side. Yeah, I meant smuggler

Nick Mangiaracina
07-27-2011, 03:47 PM
I have a feeling from what they were sending they were minors as well.

LEWL! I'll protect you from scary RP nerds, Ferret. It'll be safe with the CA guild, I promise. Will you be playing with us?

B-Ferret
07-27-2011, 04:16 PM
LEWL! I'll protect you from scary RP nerds, Ferret. It'll be safe with the CA guild, I promise. Will you be playing with us?
It's a possibility, but I doubt at release. MMOs tend to have a strong release then kinda die down, so I want to make sure that there is a reason to keep playing it.

Nick Mangiaracina
07-27-2011, 04:45 PM
I think that's a bad move. The release is the most fun part.

Farfelnugens
07-27-2011, 05:27 PM
For real. My favorite part of playing an MMO is when nobody really knows how shit works. Far more opportunities for community outreach as a result.

Nick Mangiaracina
07-27-2011, 05:33 PM
Despite your clear and obvious hatred for mankind. Farfelnugens is our Randal from Clerks. Hates people, loves gatherings.

Rawry
07-28-2011, 12:02 AM
FYI, the space combat is just a rail shooter mini-game.

Wait what.... so what you're telling me is that I don't have to beg for any kind of space action like people did in SWG? Sign me up. ^^



Regarding server types, I think it'd be best if we roll on an RP server. PvP servers tend to be alluring to the loner type of player. This is an MMORPG and I absolutely despise that in MMOs. I prefer a rich community of people who actually want to play the game and participate in grouping.

Thoughts? Ideas?

If we are light side and can RP as self righteous ass holes who can incorporate capitalism from the planet "earth" to rule the economy of the RP server we are on..... I'm all down. Well as long as we dont CRASHHHH huehuehue.
ON THAT NOTE, I really really love the crafting system they have implemented in this game. That is probably like 30% of the reason I am going to get this game. IMO They really have figured out that the Y generation is a majority of players and that means they want to do NOTHING and get almost everything in return. Having a system that lets you just get on a transmitter and be like "Hey bro, fix me up coffee when I get back.. *they argue* BECAUSE I DESERVE IT" All they get out of it is to fly around free though so I guess that is worth it right?

Nick Mangiaracina
07-28-2011, 12:04 AM
Who's this 'we' rawry? You got a mouse in your pocket?

Rawry
07-28-2011, 07:41 PM
Who's this 'we' rawry? You got a mouse in your pocket?

Oh I get it. BRB buying you a happy meal.

On that note. Hevy which class are you going to play if we are light side. As a main that is. Also what do you think of the crafting and cover system they have discussed so far?

Dirka
07-28-2011, 08:39 PM
i really liked the crafting in vanguards, i wished someone else would make something like that but with a bit less grind

B-Ferret
07-28-2011, 09:20 PM
I think that's a bad move. The release is the most fun part.
The problem is I don't have the $50 really to put towards a game I may be playing long term.

Good news is I managed to find some work by taking care of someone's dogs while they were out for a week which is netting me $80.
which I hope to send a portion of it to CA if you take a donations in the form of cash monies

Nick Mangiaracina
07-29-2011, 12:14 AM
i really liked the crafting in vanguards, i wished someone else would make something like that but with a bit less grind

Same. I felt like even with questing in crafting, there was still a stopping point where you just had to grind through to get to the next part. Infuriating.

Dirka
07-29-2011, 12:20 AM
Same. I felt like even with questing in crafting, there was still a stopping point where you just had to grind through to get to the next part. Infuriating.

yea, I'm not really sure how they could have got around it though. if you leveled faster then everyone would have been a high level crafter. and they wanted crafting to be separate from your combat level so they couldn't base it on that either.

Rawry
08-07-2011, 10:27 PM
Oh lord.....

http://gamertruths.wordpress.com/


Brain Cells....... discriminating<----- LOL...............

Dirka
08-07-2011, 10:42 PM
God hates fags

B-Ferret
08-07-2011, 11:26 PM
God hates fags
:yhay:

Rawry
08-08-2011, 04:35 AM
Don't worry, Bill Murry.

Nick Mangiaracina
08-14-2011, 07:02 PM
Guys, they just started guild beta testing. We don't qualify because we have less than 10 members registered and applied to the guild. You don't need to buy a pre-order or anything to sign up the website. You just need to sign-up and apply to the Couch Athletics guild. Once you do that, I can accept you and you can all get into beta test.

www.swtor.com

Please sign up so we can all get in and start testing.

Thanks dudes.

TheSexyAlbexican
08-14-2011, 08:02 PM
Who's currently logged as in the guild besides myself?

Rawry
08-14-2011, 11:13 PM
Just applied for the guild. I think I am the 10th if you accept me. Thar are 9 people at the moment.

Kablam
08-15-2011, 12:14 AM
I have applied under the name "TyrantMouth".

Nick Mangiaracina
08-15-2011, 08:40 PM
Need you guys to post some discussion on the interface boards. Active guilds will get invited.

Dirka
08-15-2011, 08:59 PM
Need you guys to post some discussion on the interface boards. Active guilds will get invited.

in our guild section or in the general discussion? or does it not matter?

Nick Mangiaracina
08-15-2011, 09:23 PM
http://www.swtor.com/guilds/9583/couch-athletics/public-forum

Nick Mangiaracina
08-15-2011, 11:43 PM
I will say that they're only looking at guilds with over 10 members and some guild discussion.

Get talking on those boards. The more active we seem, the better chance I can get us some beta keys.

Nick Mangiaracina
08-17-2011, 11:55 AM
Another reminder, we're not eligible for beta if we don't keep discussion up on our guild forums.

TheSexyAlbexican
09-17-2011, 08:09 PM
Picked up a Steam copy of KOTOR since it was half off. I am so ready for TOR now.

EDIT: I think I'm gonna go with a Jedi Consular > Shadow, now.

TheSexyAlbexican
09-21-2011, 01:17 PM
Guild Alignment (http://www.swtor.com/news/news-article/20110921) has started.

Do we know anyone else that'll be playing TOR?

(http://www.swtor.com/news/news-article/20110921)

Nick Mangiaracina
09-21-2011, 03:02 PM
I put out a tweet about it. No responses yet.

Dirka
09-24-2011, 01:34 PM
So 12/20 is the release date. Personally, I don't really like it since a lot of people, including myself, go out of town around Christmas.

Ninja
09-24-2011, 07:15 PM
2n9dtVZGNZ0

Poppet
09-24-2011, 07:36 PM
2n9dtVZGNZ0

I've lost all faith in this game.

Dirka
09-24-2011, 07:50 PM
I don't get it.

Poppet
09-24-2011, 08:58 PM
I don't get it.

The Jedi just sat there for 10 seconds just staring off into space while his droid got zapped and got stabbed.


What would you do if someone just took a bat to your car, then tried to stabbed you. Would you stare off into space?


This is just horrible storytelling.

Nick Mangiaracina
09-24-2011, 09:29 PM
That's not horrible storytelling, it's poorly scripted animation. And it's not game breaking in any way.

Dirka
09-24-2011, 09:35 PM
It's beta

TheSexyAlbexican
10-09-2011, 03:12 AM
I just got to the big scene in KOTOR as I've been playing it on and off. Guys, I'm incredibly excited for this game. I will do whatever it takes to make sure this has a hold in the community. I really hope a good amount of us at least get it at launch.

TheSexyAlbexican
11-03-2011, 03:36 PM
http://www.swtor.com/news/news-article/20111102

Looks like we're ready for deployment.

Nick Mangiaracina
11-03-2011, 03:37 PM
I made sure of that this morning.

Ruugab
11-06-2011, 09:07 PM
TBH, i was "kinda" on the fence on if i was looking forward to it or not, but after playing a bit of beta, and watching a lot of my brother play beta, i am no longer really caring for it

having spent a long and joyful amount of time in SWG, before NGE and other shit, all playing this does is wish i could go back in time and play SWG during its peak again

maybe my trouble is that i am comparing this to other MMOs, or even SWG itself, which was basically a sandbox, when really, i should just be comparing it to another KOTOR game that just happens to have multiplayer and a supposed monthly charge...

what ever my reasons, i will "probably" get it at a way later date when i am bored of everything else, or pandas piss me off enough

i know you guys will have a blast playing it together though. From previous experience, even some of the shittest games can be extremely fun when playing with cool people

Ranny
11-09-2011, 10:06 PM
I just got an invite to test for the weekend (Nov 11 - 13), anyone one else get an invite as well?

TheSexyAlbexican
11-10-2011, 12:14 AM
Not I. Good thing, too, since I won't be here.

Hypnotoad
11-10-2011, 12:18 PM
Sadly no. Still looking forward to playing though.

Dirka
11-10-2011, 01:21 PM
I got a test invite as well

TheSexyAlbexican
11-10-2011, 04:43 PM
OH FUCK I GOT IN.

OH FUCK I'M GONE THE 12TH.

At least it goes until midnight on Sunday. Shit, I'm not getting ANY work done this weekend.

Ninja
11-10-2011, 07:38 PM
I got in too... But I have Skyrim to play witch is infinity times twelve better.

Kablam
11-10-2011, 08:16 PM
Guess testing is free. Cool.

//Edit: Glad I got to test it. Definitely not going to be playing this.

TheSexyAlbexican
11-14-2011, 03:17 AM
After playing the Beta this weekend, I feel confident in saying that you should play TOR if:

-You like Star Wars.
-You like Bioware games.
-You like hotkey-based MMOs.
-You like an involving story in your games.
-You like voice acting in your games.

General? Yes. Everyone should play this. It's similar enough to anything you've played to avoid confusion, and different enough to set it apart.

EDIT:
Guess testing is free. Cool.
//Edit: Glad I got to test it. Definitely not going to be playing this.
What was wrong with it? I had a blast.

Ranny
11-14-2011, 03:43 AM
I have to say I was really worried that this game would be to much like every other hotkey MMO but i have to say i was pleasantly surprised. I will most likely be purchasing this game and here is why:

First off there is no auto attack. Every class get a skill that basically is your auto attack ability. I personally like this better than just having an automated auto attack. Also along the lines of abilities, the abilities in this game are a lot more spammy that other MMO's I have played (Which I personally like). Plus the animations of some of the abilities are pretty polished and fancy.

Second, I have never really played a Bioware game and am not usually a fan of story based RPG's but, in this case I have to say that the main class quest that really added an extra element of depth into the game. Although sometimes after a character would say something one of the many cut scene there would be a pause. I am not sure if this pause was to let the person read what the character had just said or was just a bug/lag. Either way the voice acting is amazing and just continues to set this MMO apart from others. Also the companions that you acquire throughout the game also add an extra little touch to the game as well.

Finally, The graphics in this game are fantastic. Now, usually in games I don't really care to much about the graphics as long as I am having fun playing it but, in this game the graphics are quite good. Unfortunately I could not play with all my settings on max and even still the game looked pretty good.

I'm sure I am forgetting some details right now and this list will probably keep growing as I think about it more, but, all in all If you are a fan of the Star Wars universe , a fan of MMO's in general or both you should for sure check this game out.

Kablam
11-14-2011, 05:47 AM
So at first I played it with biased expectations and was very critical of it, but after some thought and playing through more and more, that old feeling and the stories that I used to love from KotOR started coming back. I may play this.

Dirka
11-14-2011, 02:09 PM
I had a good time and will probably enjoy it for a while but I'm not so sure they've done enough on the MMO side. I guess time will tell.

Dirka
11-19-2011, 01:17 PM
NDA is lifted

TheSexyAlbexican
11-20-2011, 01:38 AM
NDA is lifted
I haven't seen anything about this. Where'd you see this?

EDIT: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=10939389#edit10939389
(http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=10939389#edit10939389)
I shall share more about my experiences later.

Dirka
11-20-2011, 01:18 PM
locking this thread with the open of the SW:TOR forum